Comments on: new bowl game request: simplyhired vs. indeed http://www.cheezhead.com/2006/01/02/new-bowl-game-request-simplyhired-vs-indeed/ Insight and opinion from the world of employment. Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:01:22 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Dave McClure http://www.cheezhead.com/2006/01/02/new-bowl-game-request-simplyhired-vs-indeed/comment-page-1/#comment-430 Dave McClure Wed, 04 Jan 2006 19:10:06 +0000 http://www.cheezhead.com/2006/01/02/new-bowl-game-request-simplyhired-vs-indeed/#comment-430 hey jason - you guys are certainly top tier, but different primary customer... for SimplyHired and Indeed, it's candidate-first. might have been the same for WorkZoo pre-acquisition, but these days i'd have to say the Jobster biz model is employer-first, correct? not to say you can't serve both audiences, but i think the products & services look different depending on which one is primary. (still top-tier, tho ;) hey jason -

you guys are certainly top tier, but different primary customer… for SimplyHired and Indeed, it’s candidate-first. might have been the same for WorkZoo pre-acquisition, but these days i’d have to say the Jobster biz model is employer-first, correct?

not to say you can’t serve both audiences, but i think the products & services look different depending on which one is primary.

(still top-tier, tho ;)

]]> By: Jason Goldberg http://www.cheezhead.com/2006/01/02/new-bowl-game-request-simplyhired-vs-indeed/comment-page-1/#comment-429 Jason Goldberg Wed, 04 Jan 2006 02:08:02 +0000 http://www.cheezhead.com/2006/01/02/new-bowl-game-request-simplyhired-vs-indeed/#comment-429 well gosh ... i guess 200+ paying employers doesn't make you top tier any more :( here's to a fun 2006. -jason goldberg jobster www.jobster.com www.jobster.blogs.com well gosh …

i guess 200+ paying employers doesn’t make you top tier any more :(

here’s to a fun 2006.

-jason goldberg
jobster
http://www.jobster.com
http://www.jobster.blogs.com

]]> By: Dave McClure http://www.cheezhead.com/2006/01/02/new-bowl-game-request-simplyhired-vs-indeed/comment-page-1/#comment-428 Dave McClure Tue, 03 Jan 2006 18:54:39 +0000 http://www.cheezhead.com/2006/01/02/new-bowl-game-request-simplyhired-vs-indeed/#comment-428 thanks joel... an ongoing contest between Simply Hired and Indeed *is* happening, although i don't think the best way to score the game is based on just the # of jobs. most people probably make their choice based on features & functionality -- where i think we're both working fast & furious to beat the other guy. harmonyjones: thanks, we work hard on our marketing dribble. from another perspective, if you're searching through more than 1,000 results per query, you might want to consider refining your search using our filters or other keywords so you can improve your relevant results & speed up your job search. just a thought. then again, your comment does point out how the # of jobs is a less meaningful stat after you get thru the first 10-20 pages of listings. chris: i agree the metrics are difficult to compare if we choose different periods to measure listings. that said, differences aside we still feel like we have a slight edge in the 'most jobs' category -- as does the blog you cite by bob wilson (see his post 'Simply Hired finds the most jobs'). however, while having more jobs is a relevant stat if we're comparing sites where one has 4M and another has 500K, it's a less compelling differentiator when both are reasonably close such as ours are (in most cases it's probably thanks joel… an ongoing contest between Simply Hired and Indeed *is* happening, although i don’t think the best way to score the game is based on just the # of jobs. most people probably make their choice based on features & functionality — where i think we’re both working fast & furious to beat the other guy.

harmonyjones: thanks, we work hard on our marketing dribble. from another perspective, if you’re searching through more than 1,000 results per query, you might want to consider refining your search using our filters or other keywords so you can improve your relevant results & speed up your job search. just a thought. then again, your comment does point out how the # of jobs is a less meaningful stat after you get thru the first 10-20 pages of listings.

chris: i agree the metrics are difficult to compare if we choose different periods to measure listings. that said, differences aside we still feel like we have a slight edge in the ‘most jobs’ category — as does the blog you cite by bob wilson (see his post ‘Simply Hired finds the most jobs’). however, while having more jobs is a relevant stat if we’re comparing sites where one has 4M and another has 500K, it’s a less compelling differentiator when both are reasonably close such as ours are (in most cases it’s probably

]]> By: harmonyjones http://www.cheezhead.com/2006/01/02/new-bowl-game-request-simplyhired-vs-indeed/comment-page-1/#comment-427 harmonyjones Tue, 03 Jan 2006 05:44:20 +0000 http://www.cheezhead.com/2006/01/02/new-bowl-game-request-simplyhired-vs-indeed/#comment-427 another point to consider is SH will only show you 1000 jobs After that you get their "What 1000 results aren't enough for you" message. So in reality their claims to indexing 4,441,123 jobs is just marketing dribble.. Also content is important but delivery should not be neglected. The "sales" in "new york" search took 3 times longer for results to show up on SH than on indeed another point to consider is SH will only show you 1000 jobs After that you get their “What 1000 results aren’t enough for you” message. So in reality their claims to indexing 4,441,123 jobs is just marketing dribble..

Also content is important but delivery should not be neglected. The “sales” in “new york” search took 3 times longer for results to show up on SH than on indeed

]]> By: chris http://www.cheezhead.com/2006/01/02/new-bowl-game-request-simplyhired-vs-indeed/comment-page-1/#comment-426 chris Tue, 03 Jan 2006 00:32:18 +0000 http://www.cheezhead.com/2006/01/02/new-bowl-game-request-simplyhired-vs-indeed/#comment-426 Hi Joel, I encourage you to look into the actual search results for comparison. The number of search results is one indicator, but is easy to inflate if that's what is being measured. How? Just keep jobs longer! Indeed.com deletes all jobs over 30 days old. I believe Jobster (formerly WorkZoo) deletes jobs after 7 days. Another issue is expired job postings. Few things are more annoying to a job searcher than clicking on a job search result only to get a "This posting has expired!" message. Want a number to measure? Howabout number of NEW job postings ADDED each day. All the other numbers derive from this one. Also see http://rmwilsonconsulting.typepad.com/job_search_engine_guide/2005/12/vertical_job_se.html - Robert Wilson did a pretty thorough comparison of a few job search engines. -Chris Hi Joel,
I encourage you to look into the actual search results for comparison. The number of search results is one indicator, but is easy to inflate if that’s what is being measured. How? Just keep jobs longer! Indeed.com deletes all jobs over 30 days old. I believe Jobster (formerly WorkZoo) deletes jobs after 7 days.

Another issue is expired job postings. Few things are more annoying to a job searcher than clicking on a job search result only to get a “This posting has expired!” message.

Want a number to measure? Howabout number of NEW job postings ADDED each day. All the other numbers derive from this one.

Also see http://rmwilsonconsulting.typepad.com/job_search_engine_guide/2005/12/vertical_job_se.html – Robert Wilson did a pretty thorough comparison of a few job search engines.

-Chris

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