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	<title>Comments on: notchup to replace jobster as industry whipping boy?</title>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/01/23/notchup/comment-page-1/#comment-80627</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like a stupid idea. I do not think jobseekers will spend time with anyone in this busy world when they are not looking for a job. There is another emerging job site named www.leapways.com. They have some similar idea. They are planning to launch a interview service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a stupid idea. I do not think jobseekers will spend time with anyone in this busy world when they are not looking for a job. There is another emerging job site named <a href="http://www.leapways.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.leapways.com</a>. They have some similar idea. They are planning to launch a interview service.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/01/23/notchup/comment-page-1/#comment-80280</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 07:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, compare the TOS to LinkedIn&#039;s TOS / Privacy Policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, compare the TOS to LinkedIn&#8217;s TOS / Privacy Policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/01/23/notchup/comment-page-1/#comment-80276</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 07:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m floored by the number of people who love/hate the concept but don&#039;t spend a moment of time reading--carefully--the Terms of Service.

Compare it to Googles TOS/Privacy Policy.

There&#039;s a couple of points I think are getting over-looked:

1)  You cannot see what your privacy settings might be until you register and agree to the TOS
2)  They&#039;re not responsible for what recruiters / third parties do with your resume or email address
3)  If you cancel your account it&#039;s &quot;marked as deleted&quot; in their database.  Not deleted.  Marked as such.  Got it?  Good.
4)  If they sell your information, they&#039;re not responsible for anything that happens to it downstream; the only way you can get off of those mailing lists, etc. is to contact whomever they sell to, and whomever they sell to, and so on and so forth.  Plus, those people may all have &quot;cached&quot; versions of your information, so if they get a data snapshot of NU today, you cancel tomorrow and they get a new snapshot and sell it--guess what?  Those companies will do a merge to remove duplicates--they&#039;re not going to go out of their way and REMOVE you unless you know how to track them down.

There&#039;s money in the list they&#039;re generating.

5)  Yep, it&#039;s easy to use that LinkedIn slurp they&#039;ve got set up for you.  And, of course, all of your information that is respected and protected at LinkedIn...  Well, different set of rules now.

Pay attention to the TOS and decide if giving up your information is really worth it.

http://www.userglue.com/blog/2008/01/27/notchup-privacy-down/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m floored by the number of people who love/hate the concept but don&#8217;t spend a moment of time reading&#8211;carefully&#8211;the Terms of Service.</p>
<p>Compare it to Googles TOS/Privacy Policy.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a couple of points I think are getting over-looked:</p>
<p>1)  You cannot see what your privacy settings might be until you register and agree to the TOS<br />
2)  They&#8217;re not responsible for what recruiters / third parties do with your resume or email address<br />
3)  If you cancel your account it&#8217;s &#8220;marked as deleted&#8221; in their database.  Not deleted.  Marked as such.  Got it?  Good.<br />
4)  If they sell your information, they&#8217;re not responsible for anything that happens to it downstream; the only way you can get off of those mailing lists, etc. is to contact whomever they sell to, and whomever they sell to, and so on and so forth.  Plus, those people may all have &#8220;cached&#8221; versions of your information, so if they get a data snapshot of NU today, you cancel tomorrow and they get a new snapshot and sell it&#8211;guess what?  Those companies will do a merge to remove duplicates&#8211;they&#8217;re not going to go out of their way and REMOVE you unless you know how to track them down.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s money in the list they&#8217;re generating.</p>
<p>5)  Yep, it&#8217;s easy to use that LinkedIn slurp they&#8217;ve got set up for you.  And, of course, all of your information that is respected and protected at LinkedIn&#8230;  Well, different set of rules now.</p>
<p>Pay attention to the TOS and decide if giving up your information is really worth it.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.userglue.com/blog/2008/01/27/notchup-privacy-down/" rel="nofollow">http://www.userglue.com/blog/2008/01/27/notchup-privacy-down/</a></p>
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		<title>By: RH</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/01/23/notchup/comment-page-1/#comment-80244</link>
		<dc:creator>RH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 04:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t trust anything that doesn&#039;t give me an opt out from all the spam they&#039;re sending me.  I&#039;ll just blackhole their domain on our mail server I guess.

One of those Web2.0 &quot;spam everyone and get popular services&quot;.

Why sign up for these spam generating services? Are people that lonely they need all this constant influx of spam from these &quot;social network&quot; sites?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t trust anything that doesn&#8217;t give me an opt out from all the spam they&#8217;re sending me.  I&#8217;ll just blackhole their domain on our mail server I guess.</p>
<p>One of those Web2.0 &#8220;spam everyone and get popular services&#8221;.</p>
<p>Why sign up for these spam generating services? Are people that lonely they need all this constant influx of spam from these &#8220;social network&#8221; sites?</p>
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		<title>By: Amie</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/01/23/notchup/comment-page-1/#comment-80237</link>
		<dc:creator>Amie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 03:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean, professionals NOT in desperation for a position....sorry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean, professionals NOT in desperation for a position&#8230;.sorry</p>
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		<title>By: Amie</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/01/23/notchup/comment-page-1/#comment-80235</link>
		<dc:creator>Amie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 03:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a &#039;target&#039; contact, I&#039;m happy in my current position, but I&#039;m always keeping my eye out on how to better myself or advance my career.  I think the money issue may get in the way of valid interviews, but if you note, there are interviewing ratings for the &#039;candidates&#039; so I would assume if you don&#039;t take the interviews seriously but just do it get paid, that will eventually come out in the rating system if the employers use it correctly.  I think it&#039;s a great concept, professionals, who are in desperation of finding a job, will probably make great hires if they are offered a chance to advance their career.  I&#039;m all signed up and excited to see how this goes, but I also understand some of the questions or doubts, new ideas are hard to sell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a &#8216;target&#8217; contact, I&#8217;m happy in my current position, but I&#8217;m always keeping my eye out on how to better myself or advance my career.  I think the money issue may get in the way of valid interviews, but if you note, there are interviewing ratings for the &#8216;candidates&#8217; so I would assume if you don&#8217;t take the interviews seriously but just do it get paid, that will eventually come out in the rating system if the employers use it correctly.  I think it&#8217;s a great concept, professionals, who are in desperation of finding a job, will probably make great hires if they are offered a chance to advance their career.  I&#8217;m all signed up and excited to see how this goes, but I also understand some of the questions or doubts, new ideas are hard to sell.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/01/23/notchup/comment-page-1/#comment-80132</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The site navigation was slow, cumbersome and generally didn&#039;t work for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The site navigation was slow, cumbersome and generally didn&#8217;t work for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/01/23/notchup/comment-page-1/#comment-80106</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If someone qualified, high in performance, and satisfied in their current job is the ideal target, it seems like those who respond to the NotchUp solicitation are the *second* most valauble contacts - those not responding to even the NotchUp solicitation would be the most valuable </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If someone qualified, high in performance, and satisfied in their current job is the ideal target, it seems like those who respond to the NotchUp solicitation are the *second* most valauble contacts &#8211; those not responding to even the NotchUp solicitation would be the most valuable</p>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/01/23/notchup/comment-page-1/#comment-80036</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NotchUp Founders Royalists??

I just tried to sign up to NotchUp. On the registration form I was disturbed to find that the Republic of Ireland was not listed in the very extensive list of countries. I can only assume that the founders are Royalists and refuse to acknowledge the Free Irish State.

Maybe they should read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Free_State</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NotchUp Founders Royalists??</p>
<p>I just tried to sign up to NotchUp. On the registration form I was disturbed to find that the Republic of Ireland was not listed in the very extensive list of countries. I can only assume that the founders are Royalists and refuse to acknowledge the Free Irish State.</p>
<p>Maybe they should read this: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Free_State" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Free_State</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brad K.</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/01/23/notchup/comment-page-1/#comment-79883</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would people who are in demand and making a good amount of money want to waste a day interviewing for a few hundred dollars?   Especially if they aren&#039;t actually interested in moving.  For anyone that&#039;s truly a good candidate, they would rather get paid to get HIRED.

That&#039;s where PROSUMES.COM comes in.  Better business model, in my humble opinion.

Granted, I helped launch the company but it just makes more sense.

WWW.PROSUMES.COM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would people who are in demand and making a good amount of money want to waste a day interviewing for a few hundred dollars?   Especially if they aren&#8217;t actually interested in moving.  For anyone that&#8217;s truly a good candidate, they would rather get paid to get HIRED.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s where PROSUMES.COM comes in.  Better business model, in my humble opinion.</p>
<p>Granted, I helped launch the company but it just makes more sense.</p>
<p><a href="http://WWW.PROSUMES.COM" rel="nofollow">http://WWW.PROSUMES.COM</a></p>
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