You really only get the best experience from people that are good-great at their job on both sides. Any mixture there is going to be some sort of negative response.

Unfortunately, the agressive Sales Person who is bad-poor at selling gives the Sales Person a bad name. On the other hand, the HR Buying Person who is bad-poor at their job gives HR a bad name.

Sorry for adding a cheezy plug about my company….it was just too eezy.

And best of all, we’re looking for good sales people all the time so any of you ex-CB people, give us a call

Scott

Recruiting / consulting IS sales – and very few will succeed in it. Even less will be honest and ethical which is what is required to develop a trusting and positive relationship with HR (which is the last on the list – after you have gone direct to management and proven your worth). My harshest comments are yet to come: very few should be in this career – and in another 2-6 months – about 75% will have bailed back toi McD’s anyways (same statistic in every economic downturn) It’s a REALLY hard job and will drive most people crazy. Either you can do it – or not (likely not) Not a whole lot different than selling real estate. I wish everyone all the best though – it takes guts to get into this bus and try to make it work and that sets you apart from your friends and colleagues in almost every respect.

Cheers!

However, i too am hounded by local papers calling themselves CareerBuilder. Because my company is National, they all get to me and none of them care a lick. As a result, i never pick up the phone unless i know who is calling, and i always delete messages from CB or monster reps after they identify themselves.

“During training we were told NOT TO TALK TO HR when calling into companies”.

“focused more on teaching us ‘how to sell’ than how to help employers and understand their needs”.

“sales reps are required to make 125 outgoing calls-per-day”.

Not to mention they do mass hiring and will bring on anyone with a pulse. They lose them just as fast as they bring them on.

They have about 20 reps calling into one small area at a time. No wonder so many employers hate them.

Learning a presentation about your services and products; preparing your employees on how to handle objections…how ridiculous…this is unheard of (sarcasm).

“Former Sales Guy,” I wish you well in next career, but note, sometimes you have to find something within a company or position that you can truly enjoy and can find some form of opportunity that can motivate you to commit your daily actions to excellence because finding something you don’t like about a company or position is inevitable.

My biggest problem with all the major job boards is that anyone can apply to any job and sometimes sifting through a lot of garbage trying to find the diamond. We used to use staffing exclusively, then we witnessed our job description on these sites under a staffing firm. Needless to say we we’re upset and went to job boards and haven’t looked back. Were branching out now and using LinkedIn and such put again it’s a time issue. We don’t have time to be going after these people on LinkedIn and other sites.

As someone whose been in Sales their entire career I can venture a guess that these companies are all Sales people and well that’s what sales companies do, make lots of out bound calls. Get over yourselves acting like you’re too busy to take a sales call.