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	<title>Comments on: bountyjobs gets $12 million in funding</title>
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		<title>By: Jermany Laptia</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/07/08/bountyjobs-gets-12-million-in-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-117026</link>
		<dc:creator>Jermany Laptia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BountyJobs is not an added value to any organization. Instead what they do is create a bottleneck for those companies looking to hire valuable employees which they use recruiters on. They in no way streamline the process instead make it more difficult for recruiters and the actual hiring manager to get the talent they need. Most Recruiters will not send their best candidates to companies on Bounty Jobs. Why? well because Bounty Jobs keeps 25% of the fee. You can do the math from there. In addition to that I hear the they are having money problems. They have fired the CFO, VP of Sales, and most of the sales staff. All their new reps are comission only! Makes me wonder. They are hiring recruiters and churning them. Get their clients and let them go. As far as the 12 mil. I hear and see that they are running out of cash hence all the changes. 

Why would you hire a large sales force, VP of Sales and CFO to let them go 90 days later.....

Finally word has gotten out that they are planning on charging recruiters $400 a month to get more than 2 engagements starting in april 2009.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BountyJobs is not an added value to any organization. Instead what they do is create a bottleneck for those companies looking to hire valuable employees which they use recruiters on. They in no way streamline the process instead make it more difficult for recruiters and the actual hiring manager to get the talent they need. Most Recruiters will not send their best candidates to companies on Bounty Jobs. Why? well because Bounty Jobs keeps 25% of the fee. You can do the math from there. In addition to that I hear the they are having money problems. They have fired the CFO, VP of Sales, and most of the sales staff. All their new reps are comission only! Makes me wonder. They are hiring recruiters and churning them. Get their clients and let them go. As far as the 12 mil. I hear and see that they are running out of cash hence all the changes. </p>
<p>Why would you hire a large sales force, VP of Sales and CFO to let them go 90 days later&#8230;..</p>
<p>Finally word has gotten out that they are planning on charging recruiters $400 a month to get more than 2 engagements starting in april 2009.</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha Heller</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/07/08/bountyjobs-gets-12-million-in-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-114616</link>
		<dc:creator>Samantha Heller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One point of note, beyond a surprising amount that is likely foolishly wasted ($12M) in funding this space, is that this is simply a knock-off of Talenthire which has been around since 2004.  I suppose that there&#039;s nothing wrong with copying another&#039;s idea, but curious if there is an existing patent on this idea that Talenthire or anyone else has put into play...just curious.  Anyone know how well Talenthire is doing or RecruitAlliance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One point of note, beyond a surprising amount that is likely foolishly wasted ($12M) in funding this space, is that this is simply a knock-off of Talenthire which has been around since 2004.  I suppose that there&#8217;s nothing wrong with copying another&#8217;s idea, but curious if there is an existing patent on this idea that Talenthire or anyone else has put into play&#8230;just curious.  Anyone know how well Talenthire is doing or RecruitAlliance?</p>
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		<title>By: josie erent</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/07/08/bountyjobs-gets-12-million-in-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-114507</link>
		<dc:creator>josie erent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been one of your recruiters on Bounty.  What an incredible experience. I have had the opportunity of working companies I would normally not be able to work with.

After this experience, I am convinced now more than every before the importance or recruiters in assisting companies to hired talent.

There is no way a company any company can fill all critical jobs on its own without the assistance of a recruiter. The problem is that Most HR departments are very shortstaffed and are now forcing hiring managers do their own recruiter.  It this fair....?  No ....Is this the best use of employees&#039; time? No......Are fees are not high? when you consider that some jobs are vacant 6 months to year and yes so same overworked hiring managers quit their jobs.......

My only negative about Bounty jobs is their inability to attract more and more high level jobs from various companies. Who wants to work on a job that only pays commissions of $5000 dollars....forget it.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been one of your recruiters on Bounty.  What an incredible experience. I have had the opportunity of working companies I would normally not be able to work with.</p>
<p>After this experience, I am convinced now more than every before the importance or recruiters in assisting companies to hired talent.</p>
<p>There is no way a company any company can fill all critical jobs on its own without the assistance of a recruiter. The problem is that Most HR departments are very shortstaffed and are now forcing hiring managers do their own recruiter.  It this fair&#8230;.?  No &#8230;.Is this the best use of employees&#8217; time? No&#8230;&#8230;Are fees are not high? when you consider that some jobs are vacant 6 months to year and yes so same overworked hiring managers quit their jobs&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>My only negative about Bounty jobs is their inability to attract more and more high level jobs from various companies. Who wants to work on a job that only pays commissions of $5000 dollars&#8230;.forget it&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Goodman</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/07/08/bountyjobs-gets-12-million-in-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-114501</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Goodman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An addendum to the question posed about competitors to BountyJobs. I noted TALENThire and Dayak. I just came across another start-up just today: TalentMaze (Talent Maze LLC): http://www.talentmaze.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An addendum to the question posed about competitors to BountyJobs. I noted TALENThire and Dayak. I just came across another start-up just today: TalentMaze (Talent Maze LLC): <a href="http://www.talentmaze.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.talentmaze.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Non HR Manager</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/07/08/bountyjobs-gets-12-million-in-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-114493</link>
		<dc:creator>Non HR Manager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a non HR guy, so I have a different point of view than most posting on this board.  

Many of the comments are right-on-point for well managed HR departments of big companies or companies in a constant recruiting and hiring mode, e.g. Microsoft, Google, late stage growth companies, who have invested heavily in a professional in-house HR recruiting staff.  However, I see two areas where the demand side will be hugh, and find the services of a BountyJobs valuable.

1. Low turnover, stable headcount entities. Most companies aren&#039;t big, nor are they in a constant hiring mode.  At many of these companies, the HR professionals come from a benefits or process background, and when it comes to recruiting, they are as lost as the functional managers needing to hire or replace someone.  As such, the HR professionals at the vast majority of companies don&#039;t possess the expertise necessary to adequately do recruiting in-house.  This is not a slam at these HR professionals, its just not their area of expertise.  HR professionals who have a good background in recruiting and hiring, will not be happy at one of these companies, since there are very few people to recruit.  Also, I learned long ago that to be successful in hiring, a company needs to be constantly interviewing and  filling its pipeline of candidates.  With little turnover and/or headcount growth, having recruiting a 100% varible cost is more the norm.  When you are only hiring four to eight people per year, accross all departments, the services of a BountyJobs makes sense. These companies will find services such as BountyJobs of value.  Most of these HR professionals will feel more comfortable screening recruiters, than they will screening candidates.  Everybody wins.

2. Small start-up companies will drive demand.  Start-ups aren&#039;t going to hire one, two or three fulltime recruiters, and someone to manage them, when what they really need is five engineers, three software coders, four sales folks, two marketing people, etc., etc.  I can hear the argument now with the line managers: &quot;What? We&#039;re going to hire two or three Recruiters first?  Before we hire the folks needed to design the product, find the customers, build a brand....&quot;  It is the chicken and egg deal.  No real right answer, but in the end, when its VC money, the headcount goes to engineering, sales and marketing first, then to staff functions like finance and HR.

I know the argument is search fees versus salaries of in-house recruiters, with the latter being substantially less and a much better ROI.  But the time it takes to recruit and onboard an in-house recruiter will be spend on hiring engineers, sales people and marketing folks.  Not saying its right, but it is how the real world works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a non HR guy, so I have a different point of view than most posting on this board.  </p>
<p>Many of the comments are right-on-point for well managed HR departments of big companies or companies in a constant recruiting and hiring mode, e.g. Microsoft, Google, late stage growth companies, who have invested heavily in a professional in-house HR recruiting staff.  However, I see two areas where the demand side will be hugh, and find the services of a BountyJobs valuable.</p>
<p>1. Low turnover, stable headcount entities. Most companies aren&#8217;t big, nor are they in a constant hiring mode.  At many of these companies, the HR professionals come from a benefits or process background, and when it comes to recruiting, they are as lost as the functional managers needing to hire or replace someone.  As such, the HR professionals at the vast majority of companies don&#8217;t possess the expertise necessary to adequately do recruiting in-house.  This is not a slam at these HR professionals, its just not their area of expertise.  HR professionals who have a good background in recruiting and hiring, will not be happy at one of these companies, since there are very few people to recruit.  Also, I learned long ago that to be successful in hiring, a company needs to be constantly interviewing and  filling its pipeline of candidates.  With little turnover and/or headcount growth, having recruiting a 100% varible cost is more the norm.  When you are only hiring four to eight people per year, accross all departments, the services of a BountyJobs makes sense. These companies will find services such as BountyJobs of value.  Most of these HR professionals will feel more comfortable screening recruiters, than they will screening candidates.  Everybody wins.</p>
<p>2. Small start-up companies will drive demand.  Start-ups aren&#8217;t going to hire one, two or three fulltime recruiters, and someone to manage them, when what they really need is five engineers, three software coders, four sales folks, two marketing people, etc., etc.  I can hear the argument now with the line managers: &#8220;What? We&#8217;re going to hire two or three Recruiters first?  Before we hire the folks needed to design the product, find the customers, build a brand&#8230;.&#8221;  It is the chicken and egg deal.  No real right answer, but in the end, when its VC money, the headcount goes to engineering, sales and marketing first, then to staff functions like finance and HR.</p>
<p>I know the argument is search fees versus salaries of in-house recruiters, with the latter being substantially less and a much better ROI.  But the time it takes to recruit and onboard an in-house recruiter will be spend on hiring engineers, sales people and marketing folks.  Not saying its right, but it is how the real world works.</p>
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		<title>By: Hans F.M</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/07/08/bountyjobs-gets-12-million-in-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-114445</link>
		<dc:creator>Hans F.M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not to beat a dead horse -- but I want to answer the question from C above.  Right, not just anyone can join, I know Dayak  qualifies all the recruiters and they&#039;re expected to screen candidates.  And Yes - Yellojobs open marketplace means anyone can join so I don&#039;t believe there is a screening process in place.   Since you pay for referrals, its assumed people will screen themselves to get the money.  Make Sense? The disadvantage I see is once again you are back performing the task of the screening process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not to beat a dead horse &#8212; but I want to answer the question from C above.  Right, not just anyone can join, I know Dayak  qualifies all the recruiters and they&#8217;re expected to screen candidates.  And Yes &#8211; Yellojobs open marketplace means anyone can join so I don&#8217;t believe there is a screening process in place.   Since you pay for referrals, its assumed people will screen themselves to get the money.  Make Sense? The disadvantage I see is once again you are back performing the task of the screening process.</p>
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		<title>By: C.Tornallyay</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/07/08/bountyjobs-gets-12-million-in-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-114420</link>
		<dc:creator>C.Tornallyay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This response is for Jim Newfrock:  My apologies if these questions seem elementary but I am not familiar with yellojobs and confused by your last comment.  I was under the impression these were all open communities, what criteria needs to be met by the other sites.  And aren&#039;t they all free to join?  

Thanks for the education!
C/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This response is for Jim Newfrock:  My apologies if these questions seem elementary but I am not familiar with yellojobs and confused by your last comment.  I was under the impression these were all open communities, what criteria needs to be met by the other sites.  And aren&#8217;t they all free to join?  </p>
<p>Thanks for the education!<br />
C/</p>
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		<title>By: jim newfrock</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/07/08/bountyjobs-gets-12-million-in-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-114347</link>
		<dc:creator>jim newfrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bountyjobs.com seems to solve a specific set of HR problems--widening the apperture of possible contingent search firms to help source talent and improving the due diligence and sign up processes--while simltaneously breaking the back of the fixed price monopoly on fees.  Since so much money is spent on contingent search, this would seem like a good thing. 

Some of these posts have asked if other sites are available which are similar. At Yellojobs.com, we allow employers to post jobs for free, provided they put a referral reward on each job. That reward is paid to the person who refers the candidate they hire and is only paid if a successful hire results. Most contingent search firms live and die through referrals of qualified candidates from people they talk with(ie troll for). 
Yellojobs.com is an open community (anyone may join), while H3, Bountyjobs, dayak and others are closed (must meet specific criteria/pay to join). We help employers tap directly into people&#039;s social networks. We are operating in India, with $15 million in rewards available and have just started a soft launch in the US. To learn more, check out the interview Joel did with our team last week. http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/07/01/meet-yellojobs/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bountyjobs.com seems to solve a specific set of HR problems&#8211;widening the apperture of possible contingent search firms to help source talent and improving the due diligence and sign up processes&#8211;while simltaneously breaking the back of the fixed price monopoly on fees.  Since so much money is spent on contingent search, this would seem like a good thing. </p>
<p>Some of these posts have asked if other sites are available which are similar. At Yellojobs.com, we allow employers to post jobs for free, provided they put a referral reward on each job. That reward is paid to the person who refers the candidate they hire and is only paid if a successful hire results. Most contingent search firms live and die through referrals of qualified candidates from people they talk with(ie troll for).<br />
Yellojobs.com is an open community (anyone may join), while H3, Bountyjobs, dayak and others are closed (must meet specific criteria/pay to join). We help employers tap directly into people&#8217;s social networks. We are operating in India, with $15 million in rewards available and have just started a soft launch in the US. To learn more, check out the interview Joel did with our team last week. <a href="http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/07/01/meet-yellojobs/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/07/01/meet-yellojobs/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The concept is good, however most decent recruiters and big billers, will never touch job orders based on the referral bounty concept. Furthermore the recruiters that do choose to work them most likely will be sourcing candidates from the major job boards which most employers will have already seen. If a recruiter works a job orders with an A player candidate that has been cold recruited, that candidate traditionally only is sent out to employers that have a real sense of urgency and have not shot gunned their job orders out to the entire world. However being an Internet man I&#039;d love to see this concept fly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The concept is good, however most decent recruiters and big billers, will never touch job orders based on the referral bounty concept. Furthermore the recruiters that do choose to work them most likely will be sourcing candidates from the major job boards which most employers will have already seen. If a recruiter works a job orders with an A player candidate that has been cold recruited, that candidate traditionally only is sent out to employers that have a real sense of urgency and have not shot gunned their job orders out to the entire world. However being an Internet man I&#8217;d love to see this concept fly.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Winter</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/07/08/bountyjobs-gets-12-million-in-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-114212</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Winter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you guys using Rockstar Recruiting? I personally think its easier to use.  Bounty is OK, but my big beef with them is that I had to wait 2 weeks for somone to call me before I could start using it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you guys using Rockstar Recruiting? I personally think its easier to use.  Bounty is OK, but my big beef with them is that I had to wait 2 weeks for somone to call me before I could start using it.</p>
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