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		<title>By: Lawrence Coburn</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/07/09/ved-scraping-job-boards-for-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-118697</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawrence Coburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 19:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Crossing group of companies are the biggest SEO link spammers we&#039;ve come across.</description>
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		<title>By: Moi</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/07/09/ved-scraping-job-boards-for-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-116148</link>
		<dc:creator>Moi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Bo:
August 30th, 2008 at 10:42 am 
I signed up for a free-trial at EmploymentCrossing, and when I decided to cancel it, found that it was unreasonably difficult. I was unable to find any FAQ’s OR contact information on the site. Finally, two links deep (’My Account’ -&gt; ‘Edit Credit Card Information’) I found a FAQ link, which said you need to CALL CUSTOMER SERVICES from 9 to 5 Pacific time to cancel… but it didn’t provide the phone number. A Google search finally turned it up (800-680-7345). C’mon guys. 

If you’re not operating a shady business, and you have confidence in your quality, make it easy for people to cancel memberships. If you have 500 employees prowling job boards, have one of them take 2 hours out of their day to put appropriate links on the site… then you won’t have to pay 20 customer service representatives to answer phones.&quot;

Have you ever seen the movie, &quot;Liar liar&quot; with Jim Carrey? Lawyers are taught to act, literally, to play the game and to take the side of whomever they&#039;re defending. So, in otherwords they&#039;re taught to be evasive and most likely not to be very forthcoming. That&#039;s why they can charge the BIG bucks.

I tried to even find the information on what the monthly fee was and that was hidden as well. Yes, they&#039;re lawyers, but wouldn&#039;t it be great to have a website where consumers could rate lawyers and leave comments, kind of like a consumers advocate site?....oh, I&#039;m sorry, the lawyer would probably sue and there goes another frivolous lawsuit!

I tried to find a lawyer a few years ago for a child custody case. I friend suggested &quot;Christian lawyers.&quot; Now there&#039;s an oxymoron!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bo:<br />
August 30th, 2008 at 10:42 am<br />
I signed up for a free-trial at EmploymentCrossing, and when I decided to cancel it, found that it was unreasonably difficult. I was unable to find any FAQ’s OR contact information on the site. Finally, two links deep (’My Account’ -&gt; ‘Edit Credit Card Information’) I found a FAQ link, which said you need to CALL CUSTOMER SERVICES from 9 to 5 Pacific time to cancel… but it didn’t provide the phone number. A Google search finally turned it up (800-680-7345). C’mon guys. </p>
<p>If you’re not operating a shady business, and you have confidence in your quality, make it easy for people to cancel memberships. If you have 500 employees prowling job boards, have one of them take 2 hours out of their day to put appropriate links on the site… then you won’t have to pay 20 customer service representatives to answer phones.&#8221;</p>
<p>Have you ever seen the movie, &#8220;Liar liar&#8221; with Jim Carrey? Lawyers are taught to act, literally, to play the game and to take the side of whomever they&#8217;re defending. So, in otherwords they&#8217;re taught to be evasive and most likely not to be very forthcoming. That&#8217;s why they can charge the BIG bucks.</p>
<p>I tried to even find the information on what the monthly fee was and that was hidden as well. Yes, they&#8217;re lawyers, but wouldn&#8217;t it be great to have a website where consumers could rate lawyers and leave comments, kind of like a consumers advocate site?&#8230;.oh, I&#8217;m sorry, the lawyer would probably sue and there goes another frivolous lawsuit!</p>
<p>I tried to find a lawyer a few years ago for a child custody case. I friend suggested &#8220;Christian lawyers.&#8221; Now there&#8217;s an oxymoron!</p>
<p>Best</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BO</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/07/09/ved-scraping-job-boards-for-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-114750</link>
		<dc:creator>BO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I signed up for a free-trial at EmploymentCrossing, and when I decided to cancel it, found that it was unreasonably difficult.  I was unable to find any FAQ&#039;s OR contact information on the site.  Finally, two links deep (&#039;My Account&#039; -&gt; &#039;Edit Credit Card Information&#039;) I found a FAQ link, which said you need to CALL CUSTOMER SERVICES from 9 to 5 Pacific time to cancel... but it didn&#039;t provide the phone number.  A Google search finally turned it up (800-680-7345). C&#039;mon guys.  

If you&#039;re not operating a shady business, and you have confidence in your quality, make it easy for people to cancel memberships.  If you have 500 employees prowling job boards, have one of them take 2 hours out of their day to put appropriate links on the site... then you won&#039;t have to pay 20 customer service representatives to answer phones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I signed up for a free-trial at EmploymentCrossing, and when I decided to cancel it, found that it was unreasonably difficult.  I was unable to find any FAQ&#8217;s OR contact information on the site.  Finally, two links deep (&#8217;My Account&#8217; -&gt; &#8216;Edit Credit Card Information&#8217;) I found a FAQ link, which said you need to CALL CUSTOMER SERVICES from 9 to 5 Pacific time to cancel&#8230; but it didn&#8217;t provide the phone number.  A Google search finally turned it up (800-680-7345). C&#8217;mon guys.  </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re not operating a shady business, and you have confidence in your quality, make it easy for people to cancel memberships.  If you have 500 employees prowling job boards, have one of them take 2 hours out of their day to put appropriate links on the site&#8230; then you won&#8217;t have to pay 20 customer service representatives to answer phones.</p>
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		<title>By: CH</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/07/09/ved-scraping-job-boards-for-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-114691</link>
		<dc:creator>CH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 03:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ironically, Employmentcrossing.com, a site that often has talking heads extolling how great the job market is (despite mainstream news reports of otherwise) recently laid off some of its &quot;...enthusiastic staff of 500...&quot;, some of which were contract workers – a little tactic used by shaky companies likely to avoid paying full employment benefits in the first place.  Some have been told “we hired too many of you…” Obviously, business model must not be working as well as they anticipated…shady, irresponsible stuff going on in business these days</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ironically, Employmentcrossing.com, a site that often has talking heads extolling how great the job market is (despite mainstream news reports of otherwise) recently laid off some of its &#8220;&#8230;enthusiastic staff of 500&#8230;&#8221;, some of which were contract workers – a little tactic used by shaky companies likely to avoid paying full employment benefits in the first place.  Some have been told “we hired too many of you…” Obviously, business model must not be working as well as they anticipated…shady, irresponsible stuff going on in business these days</p>
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		<title>By: Harrison Barnes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harrison Barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no idea who that woman is talking about EmploymentCrossing--that was scary!  Here is a video about our site: http://www.employmentcrossing.com/lcvideomessage.php

We have well over 2,000,000 jobs-not 1,000,000 as is indicated in the posting.  We also have a very aggressive system for removing duplicates and a much greater proportion of our jobs are actual employer jobs and not recruiter jobs as on other sites.  Recruiting firm jobs are typically duplicates of the same jobs employers are also advertising.  

It takes a tremendous about of work to scan job sites and employer pages for jobs and classify this information.  This information could not be easily found by using Google--although all of the information our sites are showing is publicly available.  These sites provide a tremendous benefit to users that they cannot get through traditional sites.  

Th EmploymenCrossing sites are unbiased in the information they show, do not accept job advertisements and provide a service that is centered towards assisting the job seeker with real jobs they will have a difficult time finding on their own.  Just because the information could be found publicly if someone had massive resources does not mean that the information itself is not extremely useful.  Google&#039;s value is categorizing and displaying public information.  The fact that a job board is being attacked for this shows just how entrenched many in this industry have become to a business model that relies almost exclusively on accepting money from employers to show biased search results and not always working for the benefit of the job seeker.  Our sites exist for the job seeker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no idea who that woman is talking about EmploymentCrossing&#8211;that was scary!  Here is a video about our site: <a href="http://www.employmentcrossing.com/lcvideomessage.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.employmentcrossing.com/lcvideomessage.php</a></p>
<p>We have well over 2,000,000 jobs-not 1,000,000 as is indicated in the posting.  We also have a very aggressive system for removing duplicates and a much greater proportion of our jobs are actual employer jobs and not recruiter jobs as on other sites.  Recruiting firm jobs are typically duplicates of the same jobs employers are also advertising.  </p>
<p>It takes a tremendous about of work to scan job sites and employer pages for jobs and classify this information.  This information could not be easily found by using Google&#8211;although all of the information our sites are showing is publicly available.  These sites provide a tremendous benefit to users that they cannot get through traditional sites.  </p>
<p>Th EmploymenCrossing sites are unbiased in the information they show, do not accept job advertisements and provide a service that is centered towards assisting the job seeker with real jobs they will have a difficult time finding on their own.  Just because the information could be found publicly if someone had massive resources does not mean that the information itself is not extremely useful.  Google&#8217;s value is categorizing and displaying public information.  The fact that a job board is being attacked for this shows just how entrenched many in this industry have become to a business model that relies almost exclusively on accepting money from employers to show biased search results and not always working for the benefit of the job seeker.  Our sites exist for the job seeker.</p>
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		<title>By: jason davis</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/07/09/ved-scraping-job-boards-for-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-113720</link>
		<dc:creator>jason davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RThis reminds me of a John Sumser post way back ( http://www.interbiznet.com/ern/archives/061005.html)  about Job jacking as well as a post Joel wrote. I remember it being good. something about indeed taking peoples jobs and then creating a brand new page in order to put their own ads  or google ads on it and making money from it. Joel, if you can find that post, please paste it in a comment here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RThis reminds me of a John Sumser post way back ( <a href="http://www.interbiznet.com/ern/archives/061005.html)" rel="nofollow">http://www.interbiznet.com/ern/archives/061005.html)</a>  about Job jacking as well as a post Joel wrote. I remember it being good. something about indeed taking peoples jobs and then creating a brand new page in order to put their own ads  or google ads on it and making money from it. Joel, if you can find that post, please paste it in a comment here.</p>
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		<title>By: SNA</title>
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		<dc:creator>SNA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 21:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only watched 45 seconds of that first video but HOLY TELEPROMPTER BATMAN!  

As for the model, meh I guess it&#039;s like good ol&#039; P.T. Barnum said...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only watched 45 seconds of that first video but HOLY TELEPROMPTER BATMAN!  </p>
<p>As for the model, meh I guess it&#8217;s like good ol&#8217; P.T. Barnum said&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rafael Cosentino</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/07/09/ved-scraping-job-boards-for-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-113254</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafael Cosentino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 21:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Job aggregators are in a risky business because their product is not their own.  If the law changes and posting any piece of another site&#039;s IP becomes Illegal I don’t know what these guys will do.  Same thing with Google, they spider other site&#039;s content and this becomes their product. They sell sponsored listings around other site&#039;s IP.  I don’t know what to think about aggregating free content that doesnt belong to you (especially job content) then charging access from folks who I imagine are desperate for a job.  Honestly, you’d have to be a complete knucklehead to pay for this service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Job aggregators are in a risky business because their product is not their own.  If the law changes and posting any piece of another site&#8217;s IP becomes Illegal I don’t know what these guys will do.  Same thing with Google, they spider other site&#8217;s content and this becomes their product. They sell sponsored listings around other site&#8217;s IP.  I don’t know what to think about aggregating free content that doesnt belong to you (especially job content) then charging access from folks who I imagine are desperate for a job.  Honestly, you’d have to be a complete knucklehead to pay for this service.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Clerkin</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/07/09/ved-scraping-job-boards-for-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-113227</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Clerkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are also spammers - recently they have registered and re-registered  to spam  my discussion forums about their architects board. It&#039;s twice as annoying as usual as I have my own jobs board on the site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are also spammers &#8211; recently they have registered and re-registered  to spam  my discussion forums about their architects board. It&#8217;s twice as annoying as usual as I have my own jobs board on the site.</p>
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