Comments on: fat CATS http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/10/01/fat-cats/ Insight and opinion from the world of employment. Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:01:22 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Me http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/10/01/fat-cats/comment-page-1/#comment-118704 Me Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:12:29 +0000 http://www.cheezhead.com/?p=1777#comment-118704 While the original email that Asim responded to was incorrect about GPL licensing, it was correct about pulling source. This followed a request for source that Asim refused to make available, source that was linked to on their previous CATS website but the source files had been pulled because Asim didn't feel that the open-source community deserved access to it. It was interesting to see a blatant attack by Asim on somebody that questioned him and simply didn't agree with what he did. This is not the mark of a good leader. July 2008 First off, next time when you write to us, dont hide behind an e-mail address. Have the courage to identify yourself. You obviously have no idea about this project, its history, or for that matter what open source is all about. Go educate yourself with open source and study other open source projects before you criticize what we did. CATS IS/WAS NOT GPL. Never was, never used a single line of GPL code, so please spare me your legal opinion. Give me a call and I will be more then happy to speak with you and explain to you why we did what we did. There's nothing that we did that was unethical or questionable. Your e-mail on the other hand shows complete lack of knowledge of even basic "business 101". Let me guess, you write open source software and live off of donations of your user from Paypal. No wait, you are a recruiter who charges hefty fees for your services, yet think that the world should labor and give you high quality software for free. In any case, just don't bother responding if you cant tell me who you are, what your profession is, and how CATS open source discontinuation affected you. Asim Baig Cognizo Technologies 10501 Wayzata Blvd., Suite 100 Minnetonka, MN 55305 (952) 232-0880 x101 CATS - Free Applicant Tracking System CATS Applicant Tracking System - Update wrote: -----@------.--- has unsubscribed Reason given: I find it unacceptable and of questionable legality that opensource-developed software which was made available under GPL licensing and was already made publicly available was pulled because you did not feel you received an acceptable ROI when collaborating with the opensource community. Once a product is made available opensource, standard practice and proper etiquette is to keep it available, something that you failed to do with all but the extremely old opensource versions of your software. It is a shame that a company started with good intentions has to behave in such a manner for any reason. While the original email that Asim responded to was incorrect about GPL licensing, it was correct about pulling source. This followed a request for source that Asim refused to make available, source that was linked to on their previous CATS website but the source files had been pulled because Asim didn’t feel that the open-source community deserved access to it. It was interesting to see a blatant attack by Asim on somebody that questioned him and simply didn’t agree with what he did. This is not the mark of a good leader.

July 2008

First off, next time when you write to us, dont hide behind an e-mail address. Have the courage to identify yourself. You obviously have no idea about this project, its history, or for that matter what open source is all about. Go educate yourself with open source and study other open source projects before you criticize what we did. CATS IS/WAS NOT GPL. Never was, never used a single line of GPL code, so please spare me your legal opinion.

Give me a call and I will be more then happy to speak with you and explain to you why we did what we did. There’s nothing that we did that was unethical or questionable. Your e-mail on the other hand shows complete lack of knowledge of even basic “business 101″. Let me guess, you write open source software and live off of donations of your user from Paypal. No wait, you are a recruiter who charges hefty fees for your services, yet think that the world should labor and give you high quality software for free.

In any case, just don’t bother responding if you cant tell me who you are, what your profession is, and how CATS open source discontinuation affected you.

Asim Baig
Cognizo Technologies
10501 Wayzata Blvd., Suite 100
Minnetonka, MN 55305
(952) 232-0880 x101
CATS – Free Applicant Tracking System

CATS Applicant Tracking System – Update wrote:

—–@——.— has unsubscribed
Reason given:
I find it unacceptable and of questionable legality that
opensource-developed software which was made available under GPL licensing
and was already made publicly available was pulled because you did not feel
you received an acceptable ROI when collaborating with the opensource
community. Once a product is made available opensource, standard practice
and proper etiquette is to keep it available, something that you failed to
do with all but the extremely old opensource versions of your software. It
is a shame that a company started with good intentions has to behave in
such a manner for any reason.

]]> By: CATS Blog - Featured on Cheezhead! http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/10/01/fat-cats/comment-page-1/#comment-117222 CATS Blog - Featured on Cheezhead! Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:49:40 +0000 http://www.cheezhead.com/?p=1777#comment-117222 [...] Check out the podcast and the interview. [...] [...] Check out the podcast and the interview. [...]

]]> By: Clay C. Scroggin http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/10/01/fat-cats/comment-page-1/#comment-115046 Clay C. Scroggin Sun, 05 Oct 2008 06:05:17 +0000 http://www.cheezhead.com/?p=1777#comment-115046 I am currious about your opinion regarding the applicant tracking sofwware industry and our impending economic recession. I have a website called Comparehris.com that currently offers, articles, selection tools, and a forum for specifically the <a href="http://www.Comparehris.com" rel="nofollow">HRIS Software</a> industry. We will be looking in the near future at expanding the site to include not only HRIS applicatons but also applicant tracking and perfomance management software applications. In your opinion who are the biggest companies in each of these industries? I am currious about your opinion regarding the applicant tracking sofwware industry and our impending economic recession.

I have a website called Comparehris.com that currently offers, articles, selection tools, and a forum for specifically the HRIS Software industry. We will be looking in the near future at expanding the site to include not only HRIS applicatons but also applicant tracking and perfomance management software applications.

In your opinion who are the biggest companies in each of these industries?

]]> By: RussH http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/10/01/fat-cats/comment-page-1/#comment-115027 RussH Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:50:19 +0000 http://www.cheezhead.com/?p=1777#comment-115027 Eric... the license may still be the same at OpenCATS - but there's a similar dearth of contributions to the code. Get logged onto svn and submit 'em... Eric… the license may still be the same at OpenCATS – but there’s a similar dearth of contributions to the code. Get logged onto svn and submit ‘em…

]]> By: Ethan http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/10/01/fat-cats/comment-page-1/#comment-115026 Ethan Thu, 02 Oct 2008 12:28:50 +0000 http://www.cheezhead.com/?p=1777#comment-115026 We'll see - its a red ocean out here. But competition is always good for the market place.... ;-) We’ll see – its a red ocean out here. But competition is always good for the market place…. ;-)

]]> By: Eric Caron http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/10/01/fat-cats/comment-page-1/#comment-115025 Eric Caron Thu, 02 Oct 2008 00:59:06 +0000 http://www.cheezhead.com/?p=1777#comment-115025 To be fair to the open source community, it was incredibly difficult to submit code to the CATS project when it was open source. This difficulty came from their proprietary license (CPL - a MPL variation) and having to sign an agreement with Cognizo. Other open source projects, like Asterisk, follow a similar model of requiring signatures before being able to contribute to the codebase. Cognizo's slow speed of execution for accepting contributions, however, simply made it more frustrating than rewarding for developers to contribute to this project. To be fair to the open source community, it was incredibly difficult to submit code to the CATS project when it was open source. This difficulty came from their proprietary license (CPL – a MPL variation) and having to sign an agreement with Cognizo.

Other open source projects, like Asterisk, follow a similar model of requiring signatures before being able to contribute to the codebase. Cognizo’s slow speed of execution for accepting contributions, however, simply made it more frustrating than rewarding for developers to contribute to this project.

]]> By: laurie ruettimann http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/10/01/fat-cats/comment-page-1/#comment-115021 laurie ruettimann Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:09:05 +0000 http://www.cheezhead.com/?p=1777#comment-115021 Dude, this title is deceiving. Where's the LOL picture? Dude, this title is deceiving. Where’s the LOL picture?

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