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		<title>By: Cheesehead.com Sold To Jobing; Site May Close : ERE.net</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/11/20/desperate-times/comment-page-1/#comment-119809</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheesehead.com Sold To Jobing; Site May Close : ERE.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 21:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I asked him about the irony of joining an industry that he has regularly skewered, and periodically suggested was in decline. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Chad &#124; Enjoy The Game &#187; Jobster calling on desperate measures?</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/11/20/desperate-times/comment-page-1/#comment-116167</link>
		<dc:creator>The Chad &#124; Enjoy The Game &#187; Jobster calling on desperate measures?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] do we lose the values system mumbo jumbo and fall back to the old adage &#8220;Desperate times call for desperate measures&#8220;? &#8230;or has it changed to &#8220;Desperate times call for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] do we lose the values system mumbo jumbo and fall back to the old adage &#8220;Desperate times call for desperate measures&#8220;? &#8230;or has it changed to &#8220;Desperate times call for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dina</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/11/20/desperate-times/comment-page-1/#comment-115466</link>
		<dc:creator>Dina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,

yes rates are dropping and/or staying flat depending on the buy. Loyality to a vendor is dead and clients expect a break. Many more options now then in 2003, good for companies bad for vendors depending on &quot;renewals&quot;. Good news clients are still spending money, they just are expecting results and true ROI. Another positive client are becoming more educated by choice..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>yes rates are dropping and/or staying flat depending on the buy. Loyality to a vendor is dead and clients expect a break. Many more options now then in 2003, good for companies bad for vendors depending on &#8220;renewals&#8221;. Good news clients are still spending money, they just are expecting results and true ROI. Another positive client are becoming more educated by choice..</p>
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		<title>By: Really</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/11/20/desperate-times/comment-page-1/#comment-115442</link>
		<dc:creator>Really</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 22:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really “Exempt”, you want to view a challenge as that? Perhaps its time to move on from Jobing sooner rather than later, ok, please leave! 

PS – why didn’t you site your source for the definition?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really “Exempt”, you want to view a challenge as that? Perhaps its time to move on from Jobing sooner rather than later, ok, please leave! </p>
<p>PS – why didn’t you site your source for the definition?</p>
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		<title>By: JibberJobber Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Are You Feeling All Doom and Gloom? Or Is The Time Ripe With Opportunity?</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/11/20/desperate-times/comment-page-1/#comment-115431</link>
		<dc:creator>JibberJobber Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Are You Feeling All Doom and Gloom? Or Is The Time Ripe With Opportunity?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 12:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and HR and recruiter blogger, wrote desperate times = desperate measures, where he talks about the troubles job boards are going through. Job board owners are talking about [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Exempt</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/11/20/desperate-times/comment-page-1/#comment-115428</link>
		<dc:creator>Exempt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 23:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jobing.com is most certainly feeling it. We have laid off close to 100 people in the last year which included our PR Director &amp; Director of Advertising and Marketing. Closed several offices, stopped career expos in several markets, invested in R &amp; D to generate more money (www.fanster.com), given revenue goals to everyone but the cleaning crew, and sadly continue to lock down our sales team in order to generate revenue. In fact on Friday we were told that we could not leave for lunch. If we brought lunch in, great, or we could order in if we wanted. AND if we weren&#039;t at 15k in sales for the day by 5pm we still wouldn&#039;t be able to leave. Passion on 3!!! I know I am motivated.
Lets look at one of the definitions of Lock Down for a moment shall we. 

~lock·down - 
- noun
the confining of prisoners to their cells, as following a riot or other disturbance. The term &#039;lockdown&#039; can be defined as an emergency course of action taken by an agent of authority to contain a problem or incident within the area of its origin by controlling the movement of people.

In this case the disturbance or incident would be the recession we are in which is effecting our clients who are either canceling their subscriptions or closing their doors all together. (shoosh, Don&#039;t mention I said the R word. I may lose my restroom privileges.) Of course we are told to not speak of this issue since it is considered an excuse and WE are basically not working hard nor long enough. 

Basically this is mandatory over time for inside sale people who are classified as &quot;Exempt Workers&quot;. Funny, I don&#039;t remember seeing VP on my biz card and I certainly am not able to hire or fire anyone. Which is fortunate for some around here because we&#039;d be looking for a new CEO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jobing.com is most certainly feeling it. We have laid off close to 100 people in the last year which included our PR Director &amp; Director of Advertising and Marketing. Closed several offices, stopped career expos in several markets, invested in R &amp; D to generate more money (www.fanster.com), given revenue goals to everyone but the cleaning crew, and sadly continue to lock down our sales team in order to generate revenue. In fact on Friday we were told that we could not leave for lunch. If we brought lunch in, great, or we could order in if we wanted. AND if we weren&#8217;t at 15k in sales for the day by 5pm we still wouldn&#8217;t be able to leave. Passion on 3!!! I know I am motivated.<br />
Lets look at one of the definitions of Lock Down for a moment shall we. </p>
<p>~lock·down &#8211;<br />
- noun<br />
the confining of prisoners to their cells, as following a riot or other disturbance. The term &#8216;lockdown&#8217; can be defined as an emergency course of action taken by an agent of authority to contain a problem or incident within the area of its origin by controlling the movement of people.</p>
<p>In this case the disturbance or incident would be the recession we are in which is effecting our clients who are either canceling their subscriptions or closing their doors all together. (shoosh, Don&#8217;t mention I said the R word. I may lose my restroom privileges.) Of course we are told to not speak of this issue since it is considered an excuse and WE are basically not working hard nor long enough. </p>
<p>Basically this is mandatory over time for inside sale people who are classified as &#8220;Exempt Workers&#8221;. Funny, I don&#8217;t remember seeing VP on my biz card and I certainly am not able to hire or fire anyone. Which is fortunate for some around here because we&#8217;d be looking for a new CEO.</p>
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		<title>By: Si Conroy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Si Conroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 08:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or, rather than going to corporate sites they&#039;ll go first to the sites which have invested in the user experience rather than butchering it for the quick buck?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, rather than going to corporate sites they&#8217;ll go first to the sites which have invested in the user experience rather than butchering it for the quick buck?</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/11/20/desperate-times/comment-page-1/#comment-115424</link>
		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 03:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Drowning pool said it best when they said, &quot;Let the bodies hit the floor&quot; - 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO_QntXc-c4</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Drowning pool said it best when they said, &#8220;Let the bodies hit the floor&#8221; &#8211; </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO_QntXc-c4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO_QntXc-c4</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/11/20/desperate-times/comment-page-1/#comment-115421</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like Jobing.com is getting hit hard as well.  In several markets they appear to be testing GoogleAds all over the site.  It is not limited to front page as ads are on company profiles, postings, video, basically everywhere.

Like you said, desperate times call for desperate measures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like Jobing.com is getting hit hard as well.  In several markets they appear to be testing GoogleAds all over the site.  It is not limited to front page as ads are on company profiles, postings, video, basically everywhere.</p>
<p>Like you said, desperate times call for desperate measures.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/11/20/desperate-times/comment-page-1/#comment-115417</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone seen a drop in actual rates quoted by Monster, Dice or Careerbuilder yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone seen a drop in actual rates quoted by Monster, Dice or Careerbuilder yet?</p>
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