Comments on: taleo creating ‘web constipation’ for candidates? http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/12/15/ved-taleo-creating-web-constipation-for-candidates/ Insight and opinion from the world of employment. Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:01:22 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Taleo: Tool of Darkeness « Aplomb Pronto http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/12/15/ved-taleo-creating-web-constipation-for-candidates/comment-page-1/#comment-116057 Taleo: Tool of Darkeness « Aplomb Pronto Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:22:17 +0000 http://www.cheezhead.com/?p=2047#comment-116057 [...] For one thing Taleo is buggy as hell. [...] [...] For one thing Taleo is buggy as hell. [...]

]]> By: Mary Grace Hennessy http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/12/15/ved-taleo-creating-web-constipation-for-candidates/comment-page-1/#comment-115880 Mary Grace Hennessy Thu, 18 Dec 2008 02:13:18 +0000 http://www.cheezhead.com/?p=2047#comment-115880 Hi there, this is Mary Grace Hennessy, Sr. Director of Product Management with Taleo. I was the lead product manager for the release you reference in your post and thought I might offer some helpful clarification. With Taleo 7.5 (available in 2007), we added web 2.0 features to our career section design in order to allow for more interactive page designs. In doing so, we introduced JavaScript and some third parties required help to do scraping. In response to this, last December (2007) in our 7.5 SP3 release, we introduced a new "site map" feature to help third parties with scraping. This feature enables anyone who wants/needs to scrape jobs from Taleo's customers’ career sites to do so once--without needing to make changes every time we upgrade the design of our customers’ career sites. All customers received these instructions with the SP3 release notes, and I believe all of the major job boards and job distributors are aware of feature. If not, they can contact us to request the instructions. The link referenced in your post appears to work correctly now, and we have had no customer calls regarding this issue recently, despite having millions of candidates running through our systems. Taleo is always happy to support any third party our customers wish to interact with who needs to get job data, and we do appreciate when issues are brought to our attention. Thanks for listening, Mary Grace Hennessey Hi there, this is Mary Grace Hennessy, Sr. Director of Product Management with Taleo. I was the lead product manager for the release you reference in your post and thought I might offer some helpful clarification.

With Taleo 7.5 (available in 2007), we added web 2.0 features to our career section design in order to allow for more interactive page designs. In doing so, we introduced JavaScript and some third parties required help to do scraping. In response to this, last December (2007) in our 7.5 SP3 release, we introduced a new “site map” feature to help third parties with scraping. This feature enables anyone who wants/needs to scrape jobs from Taleo’s customers’ career sites to do so once–without needing to make changes every time we upgrade the design of our customers’ career sites. All customers received these instructions with the SP3 release notes, and I believe all of the major job boards and job distributors are aware of feature. If not, they can contact us to request the instructions.

The link referenced in your post appears to work correctly now, and we have had no customer calls regarding this issue recently, despite having millions of candidates running through our systems. Taleo is always happy to support any third party our customers wish to interact with who needs to get job data, and we do appreciate when issues are brought to our attention.

Thanks for listening,

Mary Grace Hennessey

]]> By: John B http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/12/15/ved-taleo-creating-web-constipation-for-candidates/comment-page-1/#comment-115876 John B Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:14:13 +0000 http://www.cheezhead.com/?p=2047#comment-115876 Taleo has a real issue when it comes to "playing nice". I'm familiar with a vendor who leads the onboarding space and Taleo has now told their clients that they will no longer allow integration with this vendor. It begs the question, that with Taleo: Who owns the information? Who's driving the ship? Taleo has a real issue when it comes to “playing nice”. I’m familiar with a vendor who leads the onboarding space and Taleo has now told their clients that they will no longer allow integration with this vendor. It begs the question, that with Taleo:

Who owns the information?
Who’s driving the ship?

]]> By: Vanessa Dennis http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/12/15/ved-taleo-creating-web-constipation-for-candidates/comment-page-1/#comment-115871 Vanessa Dennis Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:14:13 +0000 http://www.cheezhead.com/?p=2047#comment-115871 To SEM: the person who emailed me agrees with you and said that this is a Taleo issue, not a Simply Hired issue. You are correct: the page errors are on Taleo's end. To SEM: the person who emailed me agrees with you and said that this is a Taleo issue, not a Simply Hired issue. You are correct: the page errors are on Taleo’s end.

]]> By: SEM http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/12/15/ved-taleo-creating-web-constipation-for-candidates/comment-page-1/#comment-115870 SEM Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:35:19 +0000 http://www.cheezhead.com/?p=2047#comment-115870 This is a Taleo issue...not a Simply Hired or Indeed issue. ATSs are difficult to work with, and don't care enough about tracking to work w/ many sites. All Simply Hired and Indeed do are take content from the web, and provide access to it from one place. If you are getting page errors that is on Taleo's end...not the aggregators. They don't "dead end" anyone. How is that in their best interest? They try to work w/ all the ATSs to provide BETTER TRACKING...not poor tracking. Sending someone to a dead end page does them no good. So, the person writing the email obviously doesn't understand how this works. Making it EASIER for people to find postings, and then sending them directly to where that job was found is a GOOD thing. They work as conduits...not a dead ends. This is a Taleo issue…not a Simply Hired or Indeed issue. ATSs are difficult to work with, and don’t care enough about tracking to work w/ many sites. All Simply Hired and Indeed do are take content from the web, and provide access to it from one place. If you are getting page errors that is on Taleo’s end…not the aggregators.

They don’t “dead end” anyone. How is that in their best interest? They try to work w/ all the ATSs to provide BETTER TRACKING…not poor tracking. Sending someone to a dead end page does them no good. So, the person writing the email obviously doesn’t understand how this works. Making it EASIER for people to find postings, and then sending them directly to where that job was found is a GOOD thing. They work as conduits…not a dead ends.

]]> By: HRM Today - Blog Archive » Taleo’s New Issue http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/12/15/ved-taleo-creating-web-constipation-for-candidates/comment-page-1/#comment-115867 HRM Today - Blog Archive » Taleo’s New Issue Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:23:50 +0000 http://www.cheezhead.com/?p=2047#comment-115867 [...] think one of the best blogs out there is Cheezhead.com. In today’s posts, Taleo Creating ‘Web Constipation’ for Candidates?, Vanessa Dennis shares information about a new Taleo problem. Apparetly, Taleo isn’t play [...] [...] think one of the best blogs out there is Cheezhead.com. In today’s posts, Taleo Creating ‘Web Constipation’ for Candidates?, Vanessa Dennis shares information about a new Taleo problem. Apparetly, Taleo isn’t play [...]

]]> By: Vanessa Dennis http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/12/15/ved-taleo-creating-web-constipation-for-candidates/comment-page-1/#comment-115865 Vanessa Dennis Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:36:23 +0000 http://www.cheezhead.com/?p=2047#comment-115865 Could be that the error was fixed. As of yesterday, when I published this article, I received error messages for all of the Lifetime Fitness jobs listed. Could be that the error was fixed. As of yesterday, when I published this article, I received error messages for all of the Lifetime Fitness jobs listed.

]]> By: Jacksonville Web Design http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/12/15/ved-taleo-creating-web-constipation-for-candidates/comment-page-1/#comment-115864 Jacksonville Web Design Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:27:15 +0000 http://www.cheezhead.com/?p=2047#comment-115864 Hi, I get the point of the article, but I followed your Indeed.com search link, clicked the first two jobs and the last job listed, and arrived at the Lifetime Fitness job description page(s) with no problem... the URL indicated it was a Taleo site. I also clicked "Apply Online" without error. Maybe it was a temporary glitch? Hi,
I get the point of the article, but I followed your Indeed.com search link, clicked the first two jobs and the last job listed, and arrived at the Lifetime Fitness job description page(s) with no problem… the URL indicated it was a Taleo site. I also clicked “Apply Online” without error. Maybe it was a temporary glitch?

]]> By: The ATS Guy » Taleo’s New Issue http://www.cheezhead.com/2008/12/15/ved-taleo-creating-web-constipation-for-candidates/comment-page-1/#comment-115858 The ATS Guy » Taleo’s New Issue Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:50:21 +0000 http://www.cheezhead.com/?p=2047#comment-115858 [...] of the best blogs out there is at Cheezhead.com. One of today’s posts, Taleo Creating ‘Web Constipation’ for Candidates?, especially caught my attention. Apparetly, Taleo isn’t play friendly with some of the job [...] [...] of the best blogs out there is at Cheezhead.com. One of today’s posts, Taleo Creating ‘Web Constipation’ for Candidates?, especially caught my attention. Apparetly, Taleo isn’t play friendly with some of the job [...]

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