Comments on: new job site draws ire from job seekers http://www.cheezhead.com/2009/02/02/ved-new-job-site-draws-ire/ Insight and opinion from the world of employment. Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:01:22 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Alice Klein http://www.cheezhead.com/2009/02/02/ved-new-job-site-draws-ire/comment-page-1/#comment-117298 Alice Klein Tue, 07 Apr 2009 17:56:13 +0000 http://www.cheezhead.com/?p=2952#comment-117298 I think it's a horrible scam. You are paying for something you can easily get by yourself. The whole thing makes no sense. They say that they are no longer recruiting but are doing this business now. So then, how do they have the job requirements? If they have the actual job requirements, then they would be busy filling them. I don't see how they have anything to offer other than a lookup service. I see this as a waste of time for the job seeker, and deception as well, and a waste of money. It is absolutely Disgusting to do this to an unemployed person. Another thing I find wierd is that, how do you know that the hiring manager wants you to bypass the HR? I am referring to the applicant. I mean, perhaps they do, but companies have policies and procedures. Who in their right mind would do something weird like that and potentially ruin their chances? So this service, is also misguided. Who says that the gatekeepers are bad people and must be avoided? Is he saying that HR does not do anything all day long? I think it’s a horrible scam. You are paying for something you can easily get by yourself.

The whole thing makes no sense. They say that they are no longer recruiting but are doing this business now. So then, how do they have the job requirements? If they have the actual job requirements, then they would be busy filling them.

I don’t see how they have anything to offer other than a lookup service.

I see this as a waste of time for the job seeker, and deception as well, and a waste of money. It is absolutely Disgusting to do this to an unemployed person.

Another thing I find wierd is that, how do you know that the hiring manager wants you to bypass the HR? I am referring to the applicant.

I mean, perhaps they do, but companies have policies and procedures.

Who in their right mind would do something weird like that and potentially ruin their chances? So this service, is also misguided.

Who says that the gatekeepers are bad people and must be avoided? Is he saying that HR does not do anything all day long?

]]> By: Martin http://www.cheezhead.com/2009/02/02/ved-new-job-site-draws-ire/comment-page-1/#comment-116810 Martin Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:02:03 +0000 http://www.cheezhead.com/?p=2952#comment-116810 Interesting - sad thing is, they could use ZoomInfo (yup - I'm the Recruiting Manager for same), LinkedIn, etc, and gain the same information. No need to pay somebody else to type on a keyboard for you. The Ladders is beginning to irritate me, as somebody on the hiring side. I don't post with them, they crawl our career site and pull jobs and then repost them - then, they charge job seekers to look at them. I think there's a service that does that for free, what's it called... oh, yeah! Indeed. SimplyHired. Hell, Google, if you don't mind digging through some irrelevant results. What really bothers me about The Ladders is that they repost/ refresh jobs that I've filled & pulled months ago. I've been getting hit today about a Director of eComm job we were looking to fill in January. Tons of calls, emails that came in over the weekend - even an e-mail from a guy who was the second runner-up for the job, who thought we'd reposted it. Thing is, the candidate we hired started today, the job's nowhere on our site, etc. This poor guy thought we'd lied to him about having a better fit, and he was - understandably - a bit ticked. All I can imagine is that the folks at The Ladders have a dearth of real jobs to show to candidates - who they get their revenue from - so they're showing jobs that don't even exist, in order to lure these folks in. Dirty pool, in other words. Interesting – sad thing is, they could use ZoomInfo (yup – I’m the Recruiting Manager for same), LinkedIn, etc, and gain the same information. No need to pay somebody else to type on a keyboard for you.

The Ladders is beginning to irritate me, as somebody on the hiring side. I don’t post with them, they crawl our career site and pull jobs and then repost them – then, they charge job seekers to look at them. I think there’s a service that does that for free, what’s it called… oh, yeah! Indeed. SimplyHired. Hell, Google, if you don’t mind digging through some irrelevant results.

What really bothers me about The Ladders is that they repost/ refresh jobs that I’ve filled & pulled months ago. I’ve been getting hit today about a Director of eComm job we were looking to fill in January. Tons of calls, emails that came in over the weekend – even an e-mail from a guy who was the second runner-up for the job, who thought we’d reposted it. Thing is, the candidate we hired started today, the job’s nowhere on our site, etc. This poor guy thought we’d lied to him about having a better fit, and he was – understandably – a bit ticked.

All I can imagine is that the folks at The Ladders have a dearth of real jobs to show to candidates – who they get their revenue from – so they’re showing jobs that don’t even exist, in order to lure these folks in. Dirty pool, in other words.

]]> By: Linda http://www.cheezhead.com/2009/02/02/ved-new-job-site-draws-ire/comment-page-1/#comment-116398 Linda Mon, 02 Feb 2009 21:27:44 +0000 http://www.cheezhead.com/?p=2952#comment-116398 Different people are going to have different successes whether they pay for leads or find the HR contact themselves. I have posted here several times how I job sites take advantage of unemployed people with promises that, in the long run, aren't really made. I have not gone to any job site that charges to give me an edge on the competition because I don't believe any of the sites can actually give you anything but less money in your pocket. So, yeah, it's a waste of money. Different people are going to have different successes whether they pay for leads or find the HR contact themselves. I have posted here several times how I job sites take advantage of unemployed people with promises that, in the long run, aren’t really made. I have not gone to any job site that charges to give me an edge on the competition because I don’t believe any of the sites can actually give you anything but less money in your pocket. So, yeah, it’s a waste of money.

]]> By: Megan http://www.cheezhead.com/2009/02/02/ved-new-job-site-draws-ire/comment-page-1/#comment-116395 Megan Mon, 02 Feb 2009 17:36:16 +0000 http://www.cheezhead.com/?p=2952#comment-116395 I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing to pay for job leads because it's relatively affordable and gives you that extra edge above the competition. I actually had a friend from Dallas that used the site and she was extremely happy with the speedy service and how well the lead matched what she wanted to do (Marketing). I don’t necessarily think it’s a bad thing to pay for job leads because it’s relatively affordable and gives you that extra edge above the competition. I actually had a friend from Dallas that used the site and she was extremely happy with the speedy service and how well the lead matched what she wanted to do (Marketing).

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