Comments on: more doom for careerbuilder?

By: monsterlover1@gmail.com

monsterlover1@gmail.com — Fri, 01 May 2009 00:25:00 +0000

Monster rev down %31… told you all… let the cost cutting begin.. again

By: MWWSF

MWWSF — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:47:29 +0000

75%? Sure thing. The fact of the matter is hiring has slowed to a crawl. Bill you have to understand that as sales people they get lied to ALL THE TIME!! When I worked for monster, i would have companies tell me they were not hiring just to get me off the phone…all while I was on CB and HJ looking at their postings. I feel your pain on it, but I would suggest simply telling him you want to look at job posting alternatives…trust me…HE WILL JUMP OUT OF HIS CHAIR. haha. Good luck to you and your firm Bill.

Monsterlover…HAHAHA…I am on the Q1 call. I really, really hope you don’t work in the stock market. Nice try!

By: You are not getting 75% off

You are not getting 75% off — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:49:57 +0000

You are NOT getting 75% off, that would never get approved by any manager.

If your rep is trying to push more postings and you have told him recruitment is down then get a new rep, that is stupid.

CB has also declared war on all the agencies, so Hodes reps and the like (at least the smart ones) are telling their clients to move all or most of the spend to Monster to keep the revenue coming through the agency. It may have saved dollars short term but is a loser long term unless Monster decides to do the same and push the agencies out. We will see.

By: Ian

Ian — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:46:57 +0000

Bill – I agree, job postings have very little value. If you want to try it, I’d be happy to provide you with a free account to view passive and active candidates that match your positions across the 1200 sites we power…including oil and gas job specific verticals . I can set up a free account for you and your colleagues if you’re interested. ihinz at realmatch.com

Ian

By: cheezplease

cheezplease — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:41:58 +0000

When monster sells postings at 75% off you’re getting what you pay for. Monster is only now investing in technologies that CB has had for years. A new site design is not going to change the results users get from monster’s products. You can put a fresh coat of paint on a 96′ Kia, but it still sucks.

By: The real bill

The real bill — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:28:41 +0000

bill -
you sound like a woman. you talk too much. go do your job and get back to work.

By: joe

joe — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:08:24 +0000

Well have you looked into the new media products that Monster has to offer? You should!!!

By: joe

joe — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:07:27 +0000

Thank god that media is now one of Monsters strong points. You should look into it!!!

By: Bill

Bill — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:52:53 +0000

“You are NOT getting 75%”

Yes, my monster rep has offered me 75% off, actually a couple of times. I’m a partner for a staffing firm based out of Atlanta, we’ve been in business for more 15 years. We specialize in IT and Engineering with heavy focus in the Oil and Gas Industry. Well the Oil Patch is a bit dry, we’re lucky enough to have a diversified client base that has given us more opportunity for revenue growth. I’ve been in this business a long time and have had 20 different monster reps over the years and the quality has one downhill and fast. We actually hired our rep from two or three reps ago.

Secondly, I’ve told my monster rep numerous times that we need to push discussions back a little and that I would email him when we’re ready. Is that so hard to understand? Anything else you’d like to tell me about my business. I’ll assume you’re a monster rep yourself. I’d do yourself a favor and take a class put on by my CareerBuilder rep or my LinkedIn team. My monster rep just doesn’t get it and I’ve taking the time to help him understand my business. Currently, he’s offered double the postings from last year for the same price. I don’t want postings! I want the recruiting teams in our offices to be more effective and efficient and job postings aren’t the answer. We need to be out ahead of our clients in the marketplace doing the things they can’t or aren’t. We’ve spent hours with our CareerBuilder person and his manager about new offerings that go beyond the post and pray model. We plan right now to invest the bulk of our spend with our SEO team and CareerBuilder and allow them to manager portions of our talent funnel and marketing.

Monster has missed the boat this year. The job market is so flooded, feel free to pedal job adds to your other clients but as a recruiting firm we need to be aggressive in finding the folks our clients cant and I believe you do that through a strong media presence. We may still buy monster resume database especially when it’s so cheap right now.

By: LOL @ You are NOT getting 75%

LOL @ You are NOT getting 75% — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:49:53 +0000

‘Your Monster rep is NOT giving you 75% off unless you were overpaying by 50% which I doubt. Maybe if you called your rep back they would not leave so many messages, I never understand the ‘hiding’ mentality. Tell them you are not interested if you don’t want them calling or ask them to kindly call at a predetermined time.

Monster is however getting more aggressive in selling their services and products. They have media products that CB does not have and are going after the medium size business that CB had done much better attracting than Monster. The new site design and investment in the brand actually leave them in a great position in my mind. Yes they are definitely losing revenue BUT if they can gain market share and customer loyalty they will be poised to retake the US market for CB. This market is about survival (in any industry) and CB is teetering as their owners struggle to survive.”

This guy works for Monster. I’m 99% sure. The site design hasn’t helped Monster at all. They are struggling more than ever and 75+% discounts are common. With no traffic you have to give those things away.