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		<title>By: hashjobs.com Aggregates Openings for Free &#124; Jobs Portal Watch</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2009/05/26/hashjobs-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-117993</link>
		<dc:creator>hashjobs.com Aggregates Openings for Free &#124; Jobs Portal Watch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 23:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] told cheezehead.com: “This should scare the hell out of sites like Monster and Indeed. It’s a channel for job [...]</description>
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		<title>By: WorkGhetto</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2009/05/26/hashjobs-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-117961</link>
		<dc:creator>WorkGhetto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 21:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel may never say a bad word again about Jobing which is all right by me because he will never truly understand what its like. Jobing.com is clearly clinging to twitter now like a flood victim clinging to tree. Sadly, still spending their time trying to be “Innovative” rather then fixing and enhancing what they already have. I am sure any day now they will be announcing yet another site revamp. How about adding more tools and features to the back end to create more value for the recruiters instead of slapping another paint job on the front end? 

Unfortunately it’s too much to ask management to listen to or act on any feedback given from the bottom up at Jobing.com. A recent study was released highlighting that people value strong leadership and straight answers from their bosses more than even pay &amp; benefits. Ironically, Jobing.com chose to comment on this topic knowing very well that they themselves have been in this very situation. http://ktar.com/?nid=6&amp;sid=1170694
Maher knows what she is talking about but unfortunately Mr. Matos has failed to see that his incompetence while choosing GMs has cost their organization dearly. Handfuls of people have left Jobing in search of a better environment and one with a leader who knows how to solicit the input of key employees and other stakeholders in the company. One who is an effective communicator and who acknowledges unforeseen obstacles. 

Clear inefficiencies, overlapping roles, wasted resources, and unnecessary activities are “big picture” issues that are under the control of the CEO and the GM and all go unaddressed. The GM’s responsibility is to monitor the overall health of the sales floor yet Jobing has been plagued with interoffice conflicts, high turnover, and an unsupported vision. That GM is a VP now! Really? What&#039;s next corp retreats to the World Cup or the Tour De France. Jobing is a breeding ground for inefficiency, inconsistencies and favoritism which is probably because the GM and CEO have failed to do their job effectively and with integrity. Tweet all you want, your birds will keep flying the coop!

“And the Nominees for Worse Places to work are!”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel may never say a bad word again about Jobing which is all right by me because he will never truly understand what its like. Jobing.com is clearly clinging to twitter now like a flood victim clinging to tree. Sadly, still spending their time trying to be “Innovative” rather then fixing and enhancing what they already have. I am sure any day now they will be announcing yet another site revamp. How about adding more tools and features to the back end to create more value for the recruiters instead of slapping another paint job on the front end? </p>
<p>Unfortunately it’s too much to ask management to listen to or act on any feedback given from the bottom up at Jobing.com. A recent study was released highlighting that people value strong leadership and straight answers from their bosses more than even pay &amp; benefits. Ironically, Jobing.com chose to comment on this topic knowing very well that they themselves have been in this very situation. <a href="http://ktar.com/?nid=6&amp;sid=1170694" rel="nofollow">http://ktar.com/?nid=6&amp;sid=1170694</a><br />
Maher knows what she is talking about but unfortunately Mr. Matos has failed to see that his incompetence while choosing GMs has cost their organization dearly. Handfuls of people have left Jobing in search of a better environment and one with a leader who knows how to solicit the input of key employees and other stakeholders in the company. One who is an effective communicator and who acknowledges unforeseen obstacles. </p>
<p>Clear inefficiencies, overlapping roles, wasted resources, and unnecessary activities are “big picture” issues that are under the control of the CEO and the GM and all go unaddressed. The GM’s responsibility is to monitor the overall health of the sales floor yet Jobing has been plagued with interoffice conflicts, high turnover, and an unsupported vision. That GM is a VP now! Really? What&#8217;s next corp retreats to the World Cup or the Tour De France. Jobing is a breeding ground for inefficiency, inconsistencies and favoritism which is probably because the GM and CEO have failed to do their job effectively and with integrity. Tweet all you want, your birds will keep flying the coop!</p>
<p>“And the Nominees for Worse Places to work are!”</p>
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		<title>By: bill fischer</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2009/05/26/hashjobs-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-117941</link>
		<dc:creator>bill fischer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 15:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel,

Your post does a nice job of balancing the issues regarding how Twitter and other social media sites might play in the recruitment space.  I provided some of my thoughts on Toby Dayton&#039;s site but on the off chance that your readers might be interested here goes:

Free publishing platforms (email, wikipedia, craigslist, twitter, myspace, etc.) all have an issue over controlling who publishes. Consequently, each of those channels including, ironically, blogs (blogs and comments thereon have had their death foretold numerous times due to issues that you smartly raised in your blog and I&#039;m addressing in comments) fall under criticism since they are notoriously difficult to search and verify. This critique always seems to appear once each of these platforms reaches millions of users and thousands of companies. 

Our belief is that once these platforms scale, it&#039;s imperative to build trust systems, ranking protocols, junk filters, relevancy algorithms, intelligent search systems in order for them to continue to function and grow. This is what we&#039;re building for Twitter. Every day we parse millions of tweets with contextual search tools, we then put them through several different validation processes (check links, block accounts, our own tweet ranking system), we index them, we use crowdsourcing, and then we use our proprietary relevancy algorithms to present them. Twitter presents a very difficult signal/noise issue but every day our systems get better at excluding results. 

We&#039;re not a key word search engine or a hash tags engine, we&#039;re taking on the challenge of analyzing all tweets and as a consequence we are finding job tweets from thousands of small businesses worldwide that can&#039;t be found anywhere else plus an index of other jobs posted to Twitter. We&#039;re also building tools for other social media sites and other categories. 

Getting the right search results is hard (we look at over 1.5 billion records to find the best 10 to show) and we&#039;re appreciative of all feedback on how we can improve them helps us build a better product. 

Cheers,
Bill
http://twitterjobsearch.com
@williamfischer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel,</p>
<p>Your post does a nice job of balancing the issues regarding how Twitter and other social media sites might play in the recruitment space.  I provided some of my thoughts on Toby Dayton&#8217;s site but on the off chance that your readers might be interested here goes:</p>
<p>Free publishing platforms (email, wikipedia, craigslist, twitter, myspace, etc.) all have an issue over controlling who publishes. Consequently, each of those channels including, ironically, blogs (blogs and comments thereon have had their death foretold numerous times due to issues that you smartly raised in your blog and I&#8217;m addressing in comments) fall under criticism since they are notoriously difficult to search and verify. This critique always seems to appear once each of these platforms reaches millions of users and thousands of companies. </p>
<p>Our belief is that once these platforms scale, it&#8217;s imperative to build trust systems, ranking protocols, junk filters, relevancy algorithms, intelligent search systems in order for them to continue to function and grow. This is what we&#8217;re building for Twitter. Every day we parse millions of tweets with contextual search tools, we then put them through several different validation processes (check links, block accounts, our own tweet ranking system), we index them, we use crowdsourcing, and then we use our proprietary relevancy algorithms to present them. Twitter presents a very difficult signal/noise issue but every day our systems get better at excluding results. </p>
<p>We&#8217;re not a key word search engine or a hash tags engine, we&#8217;re taking on the challenge of analyzing all tweets and as a consequence we are finding job tweets from thousands of small businesses worldwide that can&#8217;t be found anywhere else plus an index of other jobs posted to Twitter. We&#8217;re also building tools for other social media sites and other categories. </p>
<p>Getting the right search results is hard (we look at over 1.5 billion records to find the best 10 to show) and we&#8217;re appreciative of all feedback on how we can improve them helps us build a better product. </p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Bill<br />
<a href="http://twitterjobsearch.com" rel="nofollow">http://twitterjobsearch.com</a><br />
@williamfischer</p>
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		<title>By: eric shannon</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2009/05/26/hashjobs-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-117938</link>
		<dc:creator>eric shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 12:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgive me for being a skeptic! 

Here&#039;s where I get thrown off - is there an advantage to knowing about a job opening three hours before an e-mail alert might arrive? 

Will job tweets actually go out before e-mail alerts or will they go out at the same time? 

Will it turnout that heavy twitter users (like FaceBook) also get/got lower grades in school? 

How long before twitter spam rises from 20% to 90%?

More thoughts on twitter here: http://www.internetinc.com/entrepreneurs-guide-to-bad-karma-on-twitter

-- Eric</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgive me for being a skeptic! </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s where I get thrown off &#8211; is there an advantage to knowing about a job opening three hours before an e-mail alert might arrive? </p>
<p>Will job tweets actually go out before e-mail alerts or will they go out at the same time? </p>
<p>Will it turnout that heavy twitter users (like FaceBook) also get/got lower grades in school? </p>
<p>How long before twitter spam rises from 20% to 90%?</p>
<p>More thoughts on twitter here: <a href="http://www.internetinc.com/entrepreneurs-guide-to-bad-karma-on-twitter" rel="nofollow">http://www.internetinc.com/entrepreneurs-guide-to-bad-karma-on-twitter</a></p>
<p>&#8211; Eric</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2009/05/26/hashjobs-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-117932</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 00:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Joel!  You managed to get in another shameless plug for Jobing. How much have they paid you to not &quot;report&quot; any bad news there.  Layoffs; not reported, Closing Markets; not reported.    You have the credibility of a paid celebrity spokesperson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Joel!  You managed to get in another shameless plug for Jobing. How much have they paid you to not &#8220;report&#8221; any bad news there.  Layoffs; not reported, Closing Markets; not reported.    You have the credibility of a paid celebrity spokesperson.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Rehder</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2009/05/26/hashjobs-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-117931</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Rehder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 23:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if twitter was incorporated into a company&#039;s employee referral program?

Meaning, 

1) Find out who in your company has a twitter account
2) If you have a job in their dept, direct message them the short url
3) Ask them tweet it.

Then, anyone following them would see it...especially if they twitter about their work/skills...in addition to their love for cats...and &quot;twitter followers&quot; would see your job from someone they follow.

This would fall under the &quot;trusted source&quot; type of information distribution.

I think something has a far greater chance of becoming &quot;viral&quot; if it flows through &quot;trusted sources&quot; rather than...well...just about anything else.

Same thing with text messaging...better know me before you text me something..or I better have opted in...its a trust thing because you have entered my &quot;personal zone.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if twitter was incorporated into a company&#8217;s employee referral program?</p>
<p>Meaning, </p>
<p>1) Find out who in your company has a twitter account<br />
2) If you have a job in their dept, direct message them the short url<br />
3) Ask them tweet it.</p>
<p>Then, anyone following them would see it&#8230;especially if they twitter about their work/skills&#8230;in addition to their love for cats&#8230;and &#8220;twitter followers&#8221; would see your job from someone they follow.</p>
<p>This would fall under the &#8220;trusted source&#8221; type of information distribution.</p>
<p>I think something has a far greater chance of becoming &#8220;viral&#8221; if it flows through &#8220;trusted sources&#8221; rather than&#8230;well&#8230;just about anything else.</p>
<p>Same thing with text messaging&#8230;better know me before you text me something..or I better have opted in&#8230;its a trust thing because you have entered my &#8220;personal zone.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kari Quaas</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2009/05/26/hashjobs-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-117927</link>
		<dc:creator>Kari Quaas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 20:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twitter is an interesting medium for distribution, and for Cool Works, we just use it as another way to drive traffic to the actual postings on our website.  If you follow us (@coolworks), you&#039;ll find REAL jobs that are available now.

I am curious about the benefits of #jobs vs. just jobs.  Both show up in the search so is there a benefit to one over the other?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twitter is an interesting medium for distribution, and for Cool Works, we just use it as another way to drive traffic to the actual postings on our website.  If you follow us (@coolworks), you&#8217;ll find REAL jobs that are available now.</p>
<p>I am curious about the benefits of #jobs vs. just jobs.  Both show up in the search so is there a benefit to one over the other?</p>
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