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	<title>Comments on: the rise and fall of monster</title>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2009/06/01/the-rise-and-fall-of-monster/comment-page-1/#comment-119423</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Social networking is DIFFERENT than social media. Social media is the &quot;tool&quot;. Social networking is what you do with the tool. Social media and social networking must be used as part of an overal strategy -they are not and end or a means unto themselves. Social media will not eliminate paid job postings but instead (if used correctly) will help increase exposure of job postings posted on paid job boards. Rafael is making a lot of sense when he says you can not source from facebook and twitter. Try a search for people by criteria, currently looking for work, past experience, what skills they have, what job they are looking for, where they currently live and where they are willing to work. No can do with social media... sorry. The reverse is true for job seekers, can&#039;t search for jobs on the major social networking sites based on skill levels, location, industry, etc. 

What these paid job boards need to do is (incorporate) social media properly and they will survive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Social networking is DIFFERENT than social media. Social media is the &#8220;tool&#8221;. Social networking is what you do with the tool. Social media and social networking must be used as part of an overal strategy -they are not and end or a means unto themselves. Social media will not eliminate paid job postings but instead (if used correctly) will help increase exposure of job postings posted on paid job boards. Rafael is making a lot of sense when he says you can not source from facebook and twitter. Try a search for people by criteria, currently looking for work, past experience, what skills they have, what job they are looking for, where they currently live and where they are willing to work. No can do with social media&#8230; sorry. The reverse is true for job seekers, can&#8217;t search for jobs on the major social networking sites based on skill levels, location, industry, etc. </p>
<p>What these paid job boards need to do is (incorporate) social media properly and they will survive.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Littlewood</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2009/06/01/the-rise-and-fall-of-monster/comment-page-1/#comment-118667</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Littlewood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article and comments. I certainly think there is an awful lot stacked against Monster. I cannot see it even maintaining its market share. New emergents in the market, such as Yahoo Jobs and LinkedIn, not forgetting the influx of recruiting via Social Media; though question marks remain over the success and quality, twinned with confidentiality, privacy and trust issues. One overlooked point, is in the rise of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.recruitmentrevolution.com/index.php?option=com_rrcontent_clients&amp;task=fixed-fee&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Flat Fee Recruitment&lt;/a&gt; Agencies, which offer a low cost alternative, and for me as a part owner of a SME, this is ideal and most cost effective than the 20% rate of salary other agencies. Particularly appealing in a recession time. Food for thought...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article and comments. I certainly think there is an awful lot stacked against Monster. I cannot see it even maintaining its market share. New emergents in the market, such as Yahoo Jobs and LinkedIn, not forgetting the influx of recruiting via Social Media; though question marks remain over the success and quality, twinned with confidentiality, privacy and trust issues. One overlooked point, is in the rise of <a href="http://www.recruitmentrevolution.com/index.php?option=com_rrcontent_clients&amp;task=fixed-fee" rel="nofollow">Flat Fee Recruitment</a> Agencies, which offer a low cost alternative, and for me as a part owner of a SME, this is ideal and most cost effective than the 20% rate of salary other agencies. Particularly appealing in a recession time. Food for thought&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lorraine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorraine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;many agree that without some type of financial barrier the quality of jobs on free sites will be diluted through scams and multilevel marketing schemes.&quot;

And Monster doesn&#039;t post scam jobs???

Also, ANY job board whose business model depends on fees per posting will go the same route as Monster. Not only is social networking becoming a more productive means to find work and build networks, many employers now see this new model as the best -- and most cost-efficient -- way to attract talent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;many agree that without some type of financial barrier the quality of jobs on free sites will be diluted through scams and multilevel marketing schemes.&#8221;</p>
<p>And Monster doesn&#8217;t post scam jobs???</p>
<p>Also, ANY job board whose business model depends on fees per posting will go the same route as Monster. Not only is social networking becoming a more productive means to find work and build networks, many employers now see this new model as the best &#8212; and most cost-efficient &#8212; way to attract talent.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Doom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Doom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me preface this by saying  I do not work for Monster and would like nothing more than to see their utter failure.  

This is the most self serving piece I have ever read. Let’s see we are supposed to believe that the founder of tweet my job is going to write an unbiased and more importantly accurate analysis of the recruitment industry? Nice job picking the famed failed bank Wachovia as a source of data, why not dig up a Bear Sterns report while you’re at?  BTW Monster&#039;s Market Cap is currently 1.6 Billion and they did revenue of 1.3Billion in 2008 looks to me like they are extremely undervalued.  They are expanding into China, and are major European players. Rumors of their death are greatly exaggerated. If anything they will be absorbed by News Corp or another Media Company. Now on to the crux of your argument: Social Media = Recruitment Game Changer.  

Social media is an important recruitment tool, but that doesn&#039;t necessarily mean the death or dramatic revenue decline of job boards. All the  job boards have to do is form partnerships with the social media sites and they will negate any threat posed by social media. Your argument is based on the flawed premise that the job boards, Monster in particular, will not take advantage of social media. If you are correct then yes they are leaving revenue on the table, but that simply is not the case. Monster will sell social media products if they don’t already, and they will capitalize on the social media phenomena. 

Twitter is a flash in the pan; it’s a nice shiny new toy that will be neglected for the next new shiny thing. While their rise has been meteoric, the retention rates are awful on twitter. Facebook may have staying power, but people are on there to troll for hoties or look at drunken pictures. Social Media is powerful in that it can get someone fired quickly but in terms of getting a job, I don’t believe people will use it like they do a job board. I hope you sell your business for a nice chunk of change before the fad is over. Maybe Monster will buy it from you, they have enough cash on hand to do so, then again why not just open up a free twitter account and do a live stream of job postings and charge a hefty management fee?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me preface this by saying  I do not work for Monster and would like nothing more than to see their utter failure.  </p>
<p>This is the most self serving piece I have ever read. Let’s see we are supposed to believe that the founder of tweet my job is going to write an unbiased and more importantly accurate analysis of the recruitment industry? Nice job picking the famed failed bank Wachovia as a source of data, why not dig up a Bear Sterns report while you’re at?  BTW Monster&#8217;s Market Cap is currently 1.6 Billion and they did revenue of 1.3Billion in 2008 looks to me like they are extremely undervalued.  They are expanding into China, and are major European players. Rumors of their death are greatly exaggerated. If anything they will be absorbed by News Corp or another Media Company. Now on to the crux of your argument: Social Media = Recruitment Game Changer.  </p>
<p>Social media is an important recruitment tool, but that doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean the death or dramatic revenue decline of job boards. All the  job boards have to do is form partnerships with the social media sites and they will negate any threat posed by social media. Your argument is based on the flawed premise that the job boards, Monster in particular, will not take advantage of social media. If you are correct then yes they are leaving revenue on the table, but that simply is not the case. Monster will sell social media products if they don’t already, and they will capitalize on the social media phenomena. </p>
<p>Twitter is a flash in the pan; it’s a nice shiny new toy that will be neglected for the next new shiny thing. While their rise has been meteoric, the retention rates are awful on twitter. Facebook may have staying power, but people are on there to troll for hoties or look at drunken pictures. Social Media is powerful in that it can get someone fired quickly but in terms of getting a job, I don’t believe people will use it like they do a job board. I hope you sell your business for a nice chunk of change before the fad is over. Maybe Monster will buy it from you, they have enough cash on hand to do so, then again why not just open up a free twitter account and do a live stream of job postings and charge a hefty management fee?</p>
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		<title>By: HRtechy</title>
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		<dc:creator>HRtechy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 01:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You re a freakin D-smack! Thank you for proving my point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You re a freakin D-smack! Thank you for proving my point.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruzzy Von Pennington</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2009/06/01/the-rise-and-fall-of-monster/comment-page-1/#comment-118099</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruzzy Von Pennington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HRtechy,

Knit is something you do with needles, and nit is used in nitwit, which is what you are.
Also haven&#039;t heard the &quot;not&quot; phrase used in quite some time, your holstered cell phone must be getting too tight or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HRtechy,</p>
<p>Knit is something you do with needles, and nit is used in nitwit, which is what you are.<br />
Also haven&#8217;t heard the &#8220;not&#8221; phrase used in quite some time, your holstered cell phone must be getting too tight or something.</p>
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		<title>By: HRtechy</title>
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		<dc:creator>HRtechy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 04:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Bruzzy, why don&#039;t you grow up yourself? Knit picking little things like a junior high girl. Great argument...not. Quit being so hurt and take it like an adult. If you re going to make argument, make it on valid things like MN Headhunter. You re the reason why people can&#039;t have civilized debates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bruzzy, why don&#8217;t you grow up yourself? Knit picking little things like a junior high girl. Great argument&#8230;not. Quit being so hurt and take it like an adult. If you re going to make argument, make it on valid things like MN Headhunter. You re the reason why people can&#8217;t have civilized debates.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruzzy Von Pennington</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2009/06/01/the-rise-and-fall-of-monster/comment-page-1/#comment-118085</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruzzy Von Pennington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 00:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cade,

Don&#039;t give Gen Y a bad name, go back to school and take a grammar lesson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cade,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t give Gen Y a bad name, go back to school and take a grammar lesson.</p>
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		<title>By: MN Headhunter &#124; Paul DeBettignies</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2009/06/01/the-rise-and-fall-of-monster/comment-page-1/#comment-118081</link>
		<dc:creator>MN Headhunter &#124; Paul DeBettignies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again folks in my industry take sides of the conversation. Does anyone really believe that a diet of only job boards, only LinkedIn or only social networking sites is healthy?

Does a construction worker arrive at a work site with a just a hammer? Of course not. He may have multiple hammers, screwdrivers, etc.

I am a huge believer that one should go where the talent is. Depending on who you recruit, where and what industry some tools are better than others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again folks in my industry take sides of the conversation. Does anyone really believe that a diet of only job boards, only LinkedIn or only social networking sites is healthy?</p>
<p>Does a construction worker arrive at a work site with a just a hammer? Of course not. He may have multiple hammers, screwdrivers, etc.</p>
<p>I am a huge believer that one should go where the talent is. Depending on who you recruit, where and what industry some tools are better than others.</p>
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		<title>By: Rafael for President</title>
		<link>http://www.cheezhead.com/2009/06/01/the-rise-and-fall-of-monster/comment-page-1/#comment-118070</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafael for President</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You Tell&#039;em Rafael, I mean Buzzardman!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You Tell&#8217;em Rafael, I mean Buzzardman!!!</p>
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